Mirror said:

Fans are supposed to love an artist, often regardless what the artist does! So, it's already difficult to "inject the critical thinking", but it you think that coming here with this arrogant approach is the best way to do it, you're totally wrong.

BTW, I use to love Kraftwek, they made me love elettronic music! ;)

@Paolot. This exactly the kind of herd mentality that "I" am trying to challenge.

Lisa said:

@Mirror

I have to admit I kind of agree: I too really enjoyed Grimes' album, and thought some of the sounds were so deep and intense, it really brought a new dimension to the genre, unbeknown to me.

Have you heard of Planningtorock?

A very interesting one-woman project who gels electronics with violins and saxophones?

Mirror has not heard of this artist. But it will do and will get back to you. Thankyou Lisa for being intelligent.

I love to see growth in artists; though, sometimes it's not in a direction I'll follow. I certainly don't sweat it when that happens. The glorious thing about music--old and new--is that, once it is channeled into our plane, it will always exist. Felt Mountain will always be a part of this world, this forum, and the people with whom you shared it. Why discard all of that because something new, and unpleasing to you, has come into being?

Mirror said:

I was wondering whether Goldfrapp can still be considered an electronic band?

Now? Probably not.

This is the thing about music. I loved Grimes so much and had the same semi-revelation as you when I heard her for the first time. I still like her work now but for me she's already in the dust of others such as Holly Herndon who is moving it all on to completely new places again. Her "Movement" album has very few direct DNA links to work back from.

Does that make Grimes any worse when you take a step back and compare? No, of course not.

Artists are who they are and do what they do. Sometimes they can be compared and it's right to do so as a method of relative discussion. On this occasion, for me, there are electronic bands out there now doing things Goldfrapp have never done and I don't feel I need to stop enjoying one on order to appreciate the other.

Perleaseeee... people... have you never made some statements that you thought yourselves were a bit silly in hindsight? 

Lisa said:

I wouldn't really say I discard it, as much that, after Head First, I'm just a bit wary of the artistic choices Goldfrapp will make.

I'm very grateful they ever made a record like Felt Mountain, but I would be lying if I said there isn't at least part of me which thinks that they might not have "it" anymore...

Sometimes bands should just quit while they're ahead, rather than drag on and then release stuff which they afterwards themselves admit was not up to standard.

I meant discard future musical possibilities, as well as us. Didn't you say that part of the reason you left the forum was your dissatisfaction with their direction? As I remember, your participation in the forum far exceeded discussions of the music.

Quit while they're ahead? That's a rather harsh and inconsiderate comment. I hope that you never adopt that philosophy for yourself. I've made both some very good career moves and some that were imperfect. I'd hate to think that I should just hang it up any time I fall short of perfection. Besides, I'm with the camp that believes that Alison's dismissal of HF was highly influenced by the rather negative vocal opinions of a relatively small group of Frappers.

Lisa said:

The_Carpathian said:

Mirror said:

It's like watching an old sci-fi film - you just laugh at some of the special effects, even though at that time, it was probably revolutionary!

=:)

(fuck, I'm slow.... my replies don't seem to make sense at all)