Lisa said:

@Mirror

I have to admit I kind of agree: I too really enjoyed Grimes' album, and thought some of the sounds were so deep and intense, it really brought a new dimension to the genre, unbeknown to me.

Have you heard of Planningtorock?

A very interesting one-woman project who gels electronics with violins and saxophones?

Mirror has not heard of this artist. But it will do and will get back to you. Thankyou Lisa for being intelligent.

I love to see growth in artists; though, sometimes it's not in a direction I'll follow. I certainly don't sweat it when that happens. The glorious thing about music--old and new--is that, once it is channeled into our plane, it will always exist. Felt Mountain will always be a part of this world, this forum, and the people with whom you shared it. Why discard all of that because something new, and unpleasing to you, has come into being?

Mirror said:

I was wondering whether Goldfrapp can still be considered an electronic band?

Now? Probably not.

This is the thing about music. I loved Grimes so much and had the same semi-revelation as you when I heard her for the first time. I still like her work now but for me she's already in the dust of others such as Holly Herndon who is moving it all on to completely new places again. Her "Movement" album has very few direct DNA links to work back from.

Does that make Grimes any worse when you take a step back and compare? No, of course not.

Artists are who they are and do what they do. Sometimes they can be compared and it's right to do so as a method of relative discussion. On this occasion, for me, there are electronic bands out there now doing things Goldfrapp have never done and I don't feel I need to stop enjoying one on order to appreciate the other.

Perleaseeee... people... have you never made some statements that you thought yourselves were a bit silly in hindsight? 

Lisa said:

I wouldn't really say I discard it, as much that, after Head First, I'm just a bit wary of the artistic choices Goldfrapp will make.

I'm very grateful they ever made a record like Felt Mountain, but I would be lying if I said there isn't at least part of me which thinks that they might not have "it" anymore...

Sometimes bands should just quit while they're ahead, rather than drag on and then release stuff which they afterwards themselves admit was not up to standard.

I meant discard future musical possibilities, as well as us. Didn't you say that part of the reason you left the forum was your dissatisfaction with their direction? As I remember, your participation in the forum far exceeded discussions of the music.

Quit while they're ahead? That's a rather harsh and inconsiderate comment. I hope that you never adopt that philosophy for yourself. I've made both some very good career moves and some that were imperfect. I'd hate to think that I should just hang it up any time I fall short of perfection. Besides, I'm with the camp that believes that Alison's dismissal of HF was highly influenced by the rather negative vocal opinions of a relatively small group of Frappers.

Lisa said:

The_Carpathian said:

Mirror said:

It's like watching an old sci-fi film - you just laugh at some of the special effects, even though at that time, it was probably revolutionary!

=:)

Lisa said:

If they're suddenly going to be accoustic, then it is neither a direction I particularly want to follow, but it is also not a genre I think they'll be able to be as unique in as if they would have continued with their take on electronic music.

I've been in the same place as you with artists before and it's not easy to just acknowledge you're not partner material with them any more. It's very tough to shake off the nagging thought of "What if....?" or "If only.....?".

That's ok, though. I really think it is and would never try to convince somebody otherwise.

It's a shame but I guess we all have preferences and tastes that change for ourselves as other things change around them. Sometimes those things get so far apart that the ties that held are snapped once and for all.

I'd ask, though, if it's better an artist of any sort is free to make mistakes, change or alter their aim?

Does that make any sense? Not sure I'm explaining my thoughts well.