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  • LG watchers will have seen that Lisa has been getting around... after India, she's been to Venice and Tokyo this week. Assume film-related and without Alison? Either way, I'm envious of her jetabouting! :-)
  • I don't know if many of you are following the enthralling mystery of dark matter and dark energy, but I find it fascinating.  My guess is it is from other universes within the multiverse having an effect on ours.  It fits all of the criteria.  Of course, I'm talking about the multiverses from M-theory (banes bang together to create new universes), not those from quantum speculatiion (spinoff universes when multiple alternative events happen, thereby creating alternate versions of our own universe - silly idea).
  • Politics anyone? The GE 2015?!!!

    Ok...maybe not.
  • I am guessing the UK's riveting General election next month; where we have a stark choice between a bunch of dicks obsessed with preserving the rights of the wealthy and businesses, another bunch of twats who think nobody has to work and you can finance a society simply by taxing the nuts off of the people the first group are favouring; a bunch of no hoper tosspots whose only way to power is to suck the dick of one of the first two groups and a final bunch of xenophobes who are either only interested in the welfare of a very particular geographical area of the UK, to the detriment of all the other areas, or think the UK would be a better place if all the foriegners were sent home.
    Did I miss anybody?
    The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ.
    Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit.
    Shall lure it back to cancal half a line,
    Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.
  • Yer UT there's the bunch who think global warming is purely man made and we should all live in caves to protect the environment.
    What if the Hokey Cokey is what it's all about?
  • I am very proud to say that I have never voted in my life for exactly the reasons described above.  You get to choose from you choice of sociopapthic, self-serving putzes that, if they do any good, it is surely inadvertent.  We need to evolve beyond leaders.  Evolution!  Not revolution!
  • My father always told a good story. As a young man, he worked after the war at the Co-Op. He had been in the Royal Army Service Corp transporting munitions, supplies and every manner of thing needed in the fight against fascism and nazism from the age of 19, so came out of the war as a highly politicised 24 year old determined to change things, so a job at a Cooperative as a delivery man seemed a logical choice. It was highly unionised, which at the start was good as it fought for workers rights, but it soon transcended into workers rights being diametrically opposed to what the needs of the business were, to the detriment of both sides. By the early 50's, he was married and starting a family and the union bosses always wanted to have its rallies and meetings after work, and young family men like my father just wanted to get home to see their families which left the hot heads and the guys with more radical sociological agendas attending the meetings. This made the output of those meeting more radical and even harder for men like him to abide by. In time he moved politically from what we would know call left wing to right wing for that very reason.
    He often said if someone wanted to be in politics, this alone should bar them from doing it. Anyway, whoever you vote for, a Government will get in. The world seems to have so few 'Statesmen' these days; just a succession of pigs with their noses in the trough.
    Where's Churchill when you need him ?
    The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ.
    Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit.
    Shall lure it back to cancal half a line,
    Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.
  • Appy61 said:

    Yer UT there's the bunch who think global warming is purely man made and we should all live in caves to protect the environment.


    Your quite right Appy, I just looked at the bottom of my shoe and found the Greens. If they had their way, we would all be sitting in the dark wearing hair shirts eating moss!
    The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ.
    Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit.
    Shall lure it back to cancal half a line,
    Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.
  • He often said if someone wanted to be in politics, this alone should bar them from doing it.



    Good plan.  I liked Heinlein's suggestion.  Every law should only be implemented if it is 100% "Yea" votes and, at any time after that, a single "Nay" would veto it.  It wouldn't work but sounds like fun.  And, then, my own version, a hard reset on government about once a century or so.  Throw out all of the laws and start over.  Also wouldn't work but sounds like fun.
  • Appy61 said:

    Yer UT there's the bunch who think global warming is purely man made and we should all live in caves to protect the environment.


    Your quite right Appy, I just looked at the bottom of my shoe and found the Greens. If they had their way, we would all be sitting in the dark wearing hair shirts eating moss!


    sounds good to me
  • My grandad was a soldier in the first WW. After it, and I'm guessing during it, he was a Communist and used to stand on a soap box in Lincoln Arboretum. He had a flowerbed in the shape of a star in his front garden. Sadly I was too young to understand any of this before he died. The questions I'd like answered now...
    I come from a very political family. How sad that I'm just as apathetic these days as a lot of others..to my shame.
  • I guess my view is a bit different.  All of the systems by which the world are governed are screwed, so it doesn't matter who is in office.  There is a better way and wasting any time on the current systems and their ilk is a waste of time.  It is exactly as Santayana said: I've seen this movie too.  Over time the system becomes more and more corrupt and more and more driven by those in power.  Those in power become more and more convinced of their own rationalizations as to why the "little people" don't matter and find ways to aggrandize the few (e.g. the wealth divide becomes bigger and bigger) and the system sooner or later breaks.  This is not new.  It doesn't matter what the government is.  It breaks down and, then, we do it again.  I really don't like feeling like a hamster on a tread mill.  I'd rather get to root cause of our problems than tinker, with bandaids and baling wire, on something that has been proven, over and over, to not work.  All of this goes back, including democracy, at least 3,000 years.  Sometimes I think humanity lost its brain somewhere around 3,000 years ago because it hasn't done anything essentially new for 3,000 years.  It reminds me of Japan, where a new craze hits and everybody is distracted for the moment...but nothing really new.
    Post edited by Whickwithy at 2015-04-19 21:05:22
  • Concerning global warming, my concern is that we are underestimating the potential for disaster, as well as temperature change.  Scientists are conservative by job choice.  You get bashed to a pulp for seeming flighty and not grounded in reality.  So, their estimates are going to be as "safe" as possible.  And, then, there's the folks that are spending gobs of money to counter the argument and make those that are concerned that we are endangering the only environment in the universe that we know can sustain human life seem foolish.  And, a lot of people seem to be prone to the "boy who cried wolf" concern.

    It would be quite appropriate, though, if we destroyed the earth through our vanity and desire for comfort (climate change) rather than our warlike nature (nuclear threat).  Of course, then there is our arrogance (fiddling with mother nature without a great deal of caution) that could bite us in the ass, as well.  But, the one that really ought to get us is the us versus them mentality that seems to be growing by leaps and bounds.  It really would be nice to see us stabilize a little, instead of going at things with incredible abandon.
    Post edited by Whickwithy at 2015-04-20 07:54:54
  • I share some of your views WW. Maybe what I'm about to say now should go in the Conspiracy Theories thread, but I just read on AOL a Big Story ( next to the one about the Labrador that raids the fridge) about the potential for the UK to endure a large magnitude earthquake in the future as scientists have " just discovered" (!) a fault line larger than the San Andreas Fault beneath us. whaaaat? Oops....who put that there? Sounds like
    A) more AOL bs
    B) a False Flag for 10 years hence when the fracking industry has divided the country better than any nationalist politicians ever could!
    c) maybe a new Bond movie!!
    This is just one example of the malaise I'm suffering regarding politics today....anyone with a gram of intelligence knows the population is just being fed neurotic bullshit ( and aspartame) to numb their brains. Blah blah.
    Excuse me...must dash....there's a crack just appeared in our driveway. :-?

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