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  • Vote Up0Vote Down iuventusiuventus
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    Still, there's got to be some connection between how looker and keeper, in whatever slang generated them, flipped from agent to patient.
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  • Vote Up0Vote Down PetPet
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    iuventus said:

    Still, there's got to be some connection between how looker and keeper, in whatever slang generated them, flipped from agent to patient.



    One would think so, wouldn't one?
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  • Vote Up0Vote Down iuventusiuventus
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    That's the thing.
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  • Vote Up0Vote Down Urban_TribesmanUrban_Tribesman
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    She's definitely not a 4 pinter !
    One who pints. Construe that one playmates !
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  • Vote Up0Vote Down PetPet
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    To pint is not a verb.  To pant is a verb.  To panth is not a verb (or any other manner of word), but there is such a thing as a panther.
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  • Vote Up0Vote Down Urban_TribesmanUrban_Tribesman
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    She certainly is a stonker.
    One who stonks? (We can keep this up all night as I have a profanasaurus by my right hand).
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  • Vote Up0Vote Down iuventusiuventus
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    Pet, linguistics hasn't been prescriptive in decades; so, we generally don't say things like "You can't say that," or "That ain't a word."

    In the case of pinter, it's the verbification of the noun converted back to a noun with agent function (rather than the patient function of looker and keeper) ; cf. party (n) > party (v) > partier. Seems that pinter skips the middle step altogether (unless in the UK one can pint). Another paper-worthy phenomenon.

    Still trying to figure out how to categorize those agent-patient conversions. Agent-patient conversion...hmmm...
    Post edited by iuventus at 2014-11-12 15:22:53
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  • Vote Up0Vote Down PetPet
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    Without wishing to be overly-prescriptive, I doubt whether 'panth' is a word.  (Except for people with lisps, who may well wear panth -- but they'd better not let a panther catch them at it.)   My introduction of 'panth' and 'panther' into the discussion was a species of joke.  (The species may be Panthera pardus.)

    As to 'stonker', there is a word 'stonking'... but a verb 'to stonk' may possibly be a back formation.
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  • Vote Up0Vote Down Urban_TribesmanUrban_Tribesman
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    Stonk is a military word; artillery actually. It means to deposit ordanance onto a target, either a building or people/soldiers. It can be a verb, as in 'stonk them' and a noun as in 'take cover, it's a stonk'
    To pick up on Iuventus' point about the modern habit of bending linguistic rules, this is true of English, which is flexible and withstands such abuse, but does not work in French, due to its stricter rules. Many a time I have been in France and have used the right word in conversation but mixed up its gender assignment and the French will look at you as though you are speaking gibberish.
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  • Vote Up0Vote Down iuventusiuventus
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    I was referring to pint as a verb, Pet. However, I'll have you know that I was panthing just the other night (under my future boyfriend's bedroom window). Hence, I am a panther. You surely wouldn't argue if that had been one of Shakespeare's inventions, would you?
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  • Vote Up0Vote Down PonygurlPonygurl
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    Isn't it odd that we use the word "fucker" as derogatory? I mean, in reality, you're all just a bunch of fuckers. Strange how the English language has perverted the meaning into something negative. Come to think of it, I guess I'm a fucker too on rare occasion.
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  • Vote Up0Vote Down LuDuxLuDux
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    Ponygurl said:

    Isn't it odd that we use the word "fucker" as derogatory? I mean, in reality, you're all just a bunch of fuckers. Strange how the English language has perverted the meaning into something negative. Come to think of it, I guess I'm a fucker too on rare occasion.



    Even more odd is using "cunt" in such a way.  Not only is a cunt a wonderful thing, but it's where we all come from.  It's the gateway to the world.
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    Urban_Tribesman said:

    Stonk is a military word; artillery actually. It means to deposit ordanance onto a target, either a building or people/soldiers. It can be a verb, as in 'stonk them' and a noun as in 'take cover, it's a stonk'
    To pick up on Iuventus' point about the modern habit of bending linguistic rules, this is true of English, which is flexible and withstands such abuse, but does not work in French, due to its stricter rules. Many a time I have been in France and have used the right word in conversation but mixed up its gender assignment and the French will look at you as though you are speaking gibberish.



    My Dad was in the Royal Artillery during the war.  But, as he was a bombardier in charge of a searchlight lorry, he wouldn't have done any stonking.  I never heard him use the word.
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  • Vote Up0Vote Down iuventusiuventus
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    LuDux said:

    Looker / Lookee



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