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  • Vote Up0Vote Down Urban_TribesmanUrban_Tribesman
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    Bob Marley, who died today in 1981.
    'Money can't buy you life' were his last words to his son, Ziggy. Bizarrely, in Bob's case, it may have done. He died of cancer, which started under one of his toe nails. Doctors advised he have the toe amputated but Bob refused, citing religious grounds. Really? - Rastafarianism is a free and easy religion which advocates the taking of marijuana but is strict enough to prevent you having early, life saving surgery? This is one of the reasons religion and I have only an informal, nodding aquaintence.
    The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ.
    Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit.
    Shall lure it back to cancal half a line,
    Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.
  • Vote Up0Vote Down WhickwithyWhickwithy
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    I think Bob might have meant his own, personal beliefs.
    The Sentient Struggle For Transformation

    https://www.amazon.com/Sentient-Struggle-Transformation-Whickwithy/dp/1734822147/
  • Vote Up0Vote Down Urban_TribesmanUrban_Tribesman
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    Whickwithy said:

    I think Bob might have meant his own, personal beliefs.



    Hi WW. I looked this up before posting (always best I have found).
    This is the article:
    http://web.archive.org/web/20110417084412/http://www.tribune242.com/04122011_Bob-Marley_features_pg9
    And this is the pertinent paragraph. Not being a Rastafarian, I cannot be really sure it is an actual tenant of that religion to not cut the skin, but I am sure someone on the board will know (and we may found out if Goldfrapp have any Rastafarian fans).


    The shocking diagnosis of a malignant melanoma (Skin Cancer) was given to Bob Marley. He was advised that treatment would be to amputate the toe, to stop the cancer from spreading.
    In Miami still in the summer 1977, the British diagnosis of malignant melanoma was confirmed to Bob Marley again. He was advised to get the toe amputated and possibly the right foot. Again he refused.
    Why didn't Bob Marley have the amputation? He cited religious beliefs about "not cutting the flesh". However he allowed the famous orthopedic surgeon Dr William Bacon to do a surgical excision to "cut away" cancerous tissue on the toe and do a skin graft at Cedar's of Lebanon Hospital (now University of Miami Hospital). He remained in Hospital one week and spent about three months recuperating in Miami. The procedure was deemed "a success". But sadly it was not. The cancer in it virulent form began to spread through his body (metastasized).
    Post edited by Urban_Tribesman at 2014-05-11 09:41:16
    The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ.
    Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit.
    Shall lure it back to cancal half a line,
    Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.
  • Vote Up0Vote Down WhickwithyWhickwithy
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    Oh, UT.  I thought it might be more of a case of believing that trusting modern medicine, especially with something like cancer, is kinda like the old days of trusting blood letting.  Just more expensive.
    The Sentient Struggle For Transformation

    https://www.amazon.com/Sentient-Struggle-Transformation-Whickwithy/dp/1734822147/
  • Vote Up0Vote Down rewakrewak
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    H.R Giger died today :(
  • Vote Up0Vote Down The_CarpathianThe_Carpathian
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    rewak said:

    H.R Giger died today :(



    Just saw that - such a huge shame.

    I've always been interested and intrigued with his work from discovering it via sci-fi as a young-un right through to the new Triptykon album which I bought last week that uses his art all through.

    The weird thing about Giger was that he only really had one style all through his life and for some artists the effect would pale if that was the case but with his work.....well, it always maintained being something to see.

    A real shame indeed but his legacy will be around, subconsciously, for a long time I'd wager.
    A million fires before your harvest comes. To burn out.
    Wear the mask of a heathen. For the moon's lonely eyes.
  • Vote Up0Vote Down Urban_TribesmanUrban_Tribesman
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    First came across Geigers work associated with the first Alien movie (also huge attraction to Sigourney Weaver in her pants) but I did follow up on Gieger (as Sigourney was unavailable) and bought some books of his work. Wonderful organic artist and some disturbing and thought provoking content. He will be missed.
    The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ.
    Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit.
    Shall lure it back to cancal half a line,
    Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.
  • Vote Up0Vote Down PonygurlPonygurl
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    U R I E L
    What is done in the dark will always come to light
  • Vote Up0Vote Down Border_MindBorder_Mind
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    Today is the birthday of the late great Marilyn Monroe, may her soul rest in peace.

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    Post edited by Border_Mind at 2014-06-01 04:46:32
    It's a re-creation
    Again I live another life
    My imagination
    Can't cross the borderline
  • Vote Up0Vote Down Urban_TribesmanUrban_Tribesman
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    A sad anniversary but great memories and films. Some Like it Hot is a comedy master class of innuendo and mistaken identity. There is a new book out on her death and providing further evidence that she was murdered to cover up her affairs with John & Bobby Kennedy. More here.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2630449/EXCLUSIVE-Bobby-Kennedy-ordered-Marilyn-Monroes-murder-lethal-injection-prevent-revealing-torrid-affairs-RFK-JFK-dirty-Kennedy-family-secrets-new-book-claims.html

    Perhaps this should go into the conspiracy theories thread?
    Post edited by Urban_Tribesman at 2014-06-01 06:02:23
    The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ.
    Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit.
    Shall lure it back to cancal half a line,
    Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.
  • Vote Up0Vote Down Border_MindBorder_Mind
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    ^Perhaps it should yes. I guess we will never know the truth, I'd like to check this book out though. I've just finished reading Barbara Lemming's biography, Lemming very much goes with the suicide or accidental overdose theory, and presented no evidence to the contrary. That isn't enough to suggest a closed case though.  It  would be easy to let it rest with suicide, given Marilyn had a history of attempted suicides, but I guess we will never really know what happened for sure???

    Indeed 'Some Like It Hot' is an absolute masterpiece, pretty much anything with Marilyn is just for her sheer screen presence. Of all her films, I rate Niagara, Gentlemen Prefer Blondes, Seven Year Itch, Bus Stop, Some Like It Hot and The Misfits most highly. Coincidentally enough I watched 'The Misfits' last night, there is something very haunting about this movie, not least for the fact it was a project wrought with unease from the start. 'The Misfits' is a tale of tragedy both on and off screen,  Marilyn's last completed movie, Clark Gable died ten days after filming had wrapped up, and the fact it spelt the end for Marilyn and Arthur Miller, a tragic tale in so many ways.





    Post edited by Border_Mind at 2014-06-01 08:03:29
    It's a re-creation
    Again I live another life
    My imagination
    Can't cross the borderline
  • Vote Up0Vote Down rewakrewak
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    Just read that Rik Mayall has died! :(
  • Vote Up0Vote Down LittleBirdLittleBird
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    rewak said:

    Just read that Rik Mayall has died! :(



    Really shocked when I heard :( Met him once and he was a lovely man x
  • Vote Up0Vote Down Border_MindBorder_Mind
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    Am just reading now, that was unexpected
    It's a re-creation
    Again I live another life
    My imagination
    Can't cross the borderline
  • Vote Up0Vote Down Urban_TribesmanUrban_Tribesman
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    A very funny man. Too young. His partnership with Ade Edmondson was a classic from my youth. Sadly missed already.
    Will always be 'the People's Poet' !
    Post edited by Urban_Tribesman at 2014-06-09 13:42:27
    The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ.
    Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit.
    Shall lure it back to cancal half a line,
    Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.
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