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  • Vote Up0Vote Down whisperitwhisperit
    Posts: 641
    Although he omits mention of the terrible pain involved, I think Schopenhauer is still right:

    "They tell us ... that
    suicide is wrong; when it is quite obvious that there is nothing in the
    world to which every man has a more unassailable title than to his own
    life and person."


    (Good to see you again, WW)
  • Vote Up0Vote Down iuventusiuventus
    Posts: 5,377
    <3
    Post edited by iuventus at 2014-10-18 21:23:57
    If I were dead, could I do this?
  • Vote Up0Vote Down WhickwithyWhickwithy
    Posts: 5,163
    Your self-absorption boggles my mind.

    Whisperit: I like what he says.  If life gets too painful (physically speaking, in my case), I'm outta here.
    The Sentient Struggle For Transformation

    https://www.amazon.com/Sentient-Struggle-Transformation-Whickwithy/dp/1734822147/
  • Vote Up0Vote Down iuventusiuventus
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    <3
    Post edited by iuventus at 2014-10-18 21:24:09
    If I were dead, could I do this?
  • Vote Up0Vote Down whisperitwhisperit
    Posts: 641
    A close friend of mine killed herself last year,. She had two teenage daughters. It has been ghastly, especially for them. But she suffered so terribly,  for so long, and tried so hard to stay here, that I can't say that she did the wrong thing, in the end.


     
  • Vote Up0Vote Down PonygurlPonygurl
    Posts: 2,501
    Well now we know he had Parkinson's and the drug cocktail he was on for it, might have had an impact. We know that even drugs used for depression can actually change brain chemistry sooo much, it can actually cause a person to commit suicide- so it's plausible. Pharmaceuticals..everything seems an experiment!
    Post edited by Ponygurl at 2014-08-16 10:33:41
    U R I E L
    What is done in the dark will always come to light
  • Vote Up0Vote Down iuventusiuventus
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    Ugh! I hate drugs. They're so scary... There's actually a simpler explanation for why psychiatric medications often have suicidal thoughts listed as a potential side effect. The media and celebrity doctors often misguide us by using that word...'cause.'

    I think it's fairly common for people diagnosed with illnesses like Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, or ALS to contemplate suicide. I would certainly be among those who did. It must be terrifying to face losing control of your body and/or mind. I'm pretty sure my grandfather considered it. A good friend's father actually followed through.
    Post edited by iuventus at 2014-08-16 12:13:58
    If I were dead, could I do this?
  • Vote Up0Vote Down KatRobinKatRobin
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    My thoughts too PG. the bloke was depressed. No amount of seeming privilege can shield someone from that. I didn't care a jot about his work but sorry for a sad soul and the family he left behind.
  • Vote Up0Vote Down KatRobinKatRobin
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    I was referring to your comment a few moments ago.
  • Vote Up0Vote Down PetPet
    Posts: 1,041
    I want to say something about depression.  I've been diagnosed with the condition several times.  I think that the medicalisation of human distress is profoundly unhelpful.  Depression is not a disease.  Worse, I think that such medicalisation disempowers the sufferers.  A disease is something to be treated by experts and their expert medicine.  The only real way out of depression lies within the person who suffers it.  My route out, which I've taken more than once, is to undertake a large and exacting project, or a series of such projects.  I'm not saying that it's easy, but depressed people need to do for themselves.
    My website: http://petjeffery.co.uk/
    See also: http://chomupress.com/our-books/jane/
    And on Amazon: http://www.amazon.co.uk/-/e/B009CAXH8G
  • Vote Up0Vote Down PonygurlPonygurl
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    Excellent advice Pet. Preoccupy the mind. Much better than numbing through a prescription.
    U R I E L
    What is done in the dark will always come to light
  • Vote Up0Vote Down PetPet
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    I think it is good advice.  I had a lucky break in the 1970s, when I mentioned to my doctor that my medication was leading to me walking across the road without noticing the cars.  He thought he's better take me off drugs for a while.  Then he seemed to forget about me, which gave me the chance to work on myself.
    My website: http://petjeffery.co.uk/
    See also: http://chomupress.com/our-books/jane/
    And on Amazon: http://www.amazon.co.uk/-/e/B009CAXH8G
  • Vote Up0Vote Down Urban_TribesmanUrban_Tribesman
    Posts: 5,681
    John Peel - He would have been 75 today.
    So many in the music industry owe him so much.
    The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ.
    Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit.
    Shall lure it back to cancal half a line,
    Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.
  • Vote Up0Vote Down rewakrewak
    Posts: 830
    Joan Rivers died today :(
  • Vote Up0Vote Down iuventusiuventus
    Posts: 5,377
    I'm surprised that she lasted this long on her own. You know, after Wayland Flowers died.

    Shut up! She'd love it! She's probably laughing in Purgatory right now.

    *sniff*
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    If I were dead, could I do this?
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