It seems as though the lunatics are holding sway both sides of the pond at the moment.
Whatever your views about the EU and Brexit, the point is that the UK has a soverign Parliament, and it is that that governs the UK, not the Government in power. That particular party is the one in power at a particular time, and comes up with a program of laws and legislation it seeks to introduce, but it does not hold automatous power and has to seek approval of such things by a vote in the upper and lower houses, at which, it seeks a simple majority. The point being made is, irrespective of what the people decided in a referendum, the country is not ruled by a referendum but by Parliment. As such, MP's should listern to the views of their constituents and reflect that in the way they vote when required to. Whether certain parties like it or not, leaving the EU came into being on an Act of Parliment, and leaving will have to take the same route, via a vote in Parliment. A sitting Government does not have the power to overturn an AoP without seeking a mandate in such a way.

As for the USA, irrespective of your views of Hilary Clinton, if you vote for Trump, you will have to live with the racist, xenophobic, mysoginistic idiot for at least 4 years. That is the cost of a protest vote, so think on !

LuDux said:

Ponygurl said:

Besides being afraid of a one-size fits all interest rate..there's the derivatives market bubble. Will the bank tank? Asshole Trump has alluded to it..and if anyone, he would know. (???)

Correct me if I wrong, but did you just implied that Trump is some kind of finance specialist?

What I'm saying is, is that these super rich bastards must be clued into the banking situation. The US pretty much got bailed out of the housing market bubble crash by China. They keep telling Americans "The banks are too big to fail"...and yet the derivatives debt of all the major US banks has spiraled out of control! The European banks have done the same damn thing! Indeed, frightening times. This is what happens with no oversight and no enforced regulation. The only thing we can do is to be vigilant and prepared I guess.

Ponygurl said:

What I'm saying is, is that these super rich bastards must be clued into the banking situation. The US pretty much got bailed out of the housing market bubble crash by China. They keep telling Americans "The banks are too big to fail"...and yet the derivatives debt of all the major US banks has spiraled out of control! The European banks have done the same damn thing! Indeed, frightening times. This is what happens with no oversight and no enforced regulation.

Yep, the rich have long since disposed of any concept that they should be held accountable for how they run the money markets. Instead, they write computer algorithms which shift billions from one country to the next, investing and disinvesting in milliseconds with absolutely no connection to the lives of real people - the job losses, the housing slumps and the environmental ruination.

And then they argue that 'the market' is a natural phenomenon that must not be 'interfered with' by those of us who point out that money is supposed to serve people and not the other way round.

It's a sad state of affairs when even the kids that I teach, who have restricted understanding ( being politically correct).. Are stating that Trump will evoke nuclear Armageddon! What can I say in response?! to kids that will soon be studying Charlie And The Chocolate Factory! What a completely messed up, cynical, pathetic and utterly terrifying world we live in.

KatRobin said:

It's a sad state of affairs when even the kids that I teach, who have restricted understanding ( being politically correct).. Are stating that Trump will evoke nuclear Armageddon! What can I say in response?! to kids that will soon be studying Charlie And The Chocolate Factory! What a completely messed up, cynical, pathetic and utterly terrifying world we live in.

With whom?

Good question Ludux and perfectly answered Whisperit!

It's a bit more disturbing than that WW. These are generations of highly wealthy people playing the populace. They are in the government and run the UN. These families will not let other Nations amass any wealth for fear of competition. If they do amass wealth, then a deceptive plot is kicked in. We can use WW2 as an example.Here's how they do it-

1) prepare infrastructure for the processing and eventual death of targeted populace. Which meant, they had the concentration camps, gas chambers and furnaces already in place before distributing propaganda.

Now how could they do this today you say? By doing it right in front of your face. As an example, no one would ever think of a Walmart or ASDA as an internment camp, although that's who Sam Walton was. During WW2, he ran them.

2) infiltrate the banking system. That means inside men ready to control the market with the populaces own wealth. The Stock Market crashes. The scene is set.

Where has all that money in derivative debt gone you say? Take a guess.

3) brainwash with propaganda. Hitler was the middle man. These wealthy families financed him. They also financed the other side. This is how a War is started.

Today any false flag will work.

4) secret away all the stolen bank money. The people they've stolen it from are now dead.

These families have done this throughout the ages in one form or another. It's how they have kept and built upon their wealth. Will they end up in Hell? For sure.