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  • Vote Up0Vote Down whisperitwhisperit
    Posts: 641
    la_catalina said:

    ...You prove to me truth is real and I might believe in it. There is no truth, just endless subjective viewpoints, sometimes there are many of these that are in agreement, this is called consensus, but that is all....an agreement of approximation...


    ...Of course Anna Kerenina is far from truth, truth is a fiction, which incidently is what Tolstoy wrote



    Oh, I see. Sorry, I misunderstood your position there.

    This leaves me in the slightly awkward situation of agreeing with almost everything you've said.

    Scraping round for some areas of friction, I am left with:

    1. Your notion of truth makes the term virtually meaningless. I would rather say that truths should always be acknowledged as limited, but that it's perfectly possible for a novel or a song to tell a particular kind of truth, whilst remaining a fiction.

    2. You're a bit harsh on Alison/GF in terms of artistic purity. I dont think they've ever pretended to be something they aren't i.e. a pop band. It's not like they're The Clash, for example, declaiming about the "Guns of Brixton" and signing to CBS, fer Chrissakes'....

    How's that?

  • Vote Up0Vote Down iuventusiuventus
    Posts: 5,377
    Oh, fuck, shit, cock, cunt, ass!
    If I were dead, could I do this?
  • Vote Up0Vote Down la_catalinala_catalina
    Posts: 40
    iuventus said:

    Oh, fuck, shit, cock, cunt, ass!



    bollocks!
  • Vote Up0Vote Down la_catalinala_catalina
    Posts: 40
    whisperit said:

    la_catalina said:

                                                                                                                                                            

     and worse still, I saw John Lydon on the TV doing Glastonbury, for fucks sake John!  whatever happened to "I hate hippies"  and AND it looks like he got his teeth done  ... its the end ....

    It's difficult with Goldfrapp. One doesn't expect art from a pop band, but occasionally pop slips over and becomes art, or as good as, Chuck Berry, that first Velvets record.  And I was never one of those snobs who thought the Fine Arts were better that other art forms. I love art, I love those people who painted in caves 24,000 years back, I love Francis Bacon,I love Jeff Koons and Giacometti and I love Steve Ditko (he drew the original Spiderman and Doc Strange) and for me those 60's Marvel Comics are as good as it gets. I love lots of other things, pre drip Pollock, Warhol, Rauschenburg, all those guys...., but I hate bad art, and I hate pretentious art, and basically the art world has a lot of pretention floating around in it. 

    Now Goldfrapp aren't just a pop band are they? They come with some other agenda, or they wouldn't make the films, and they'd not do the serious stuff, like FM which face it is never going to be called pop. So for me Supernature was Alison playing at being pop,and being just a teensy weensey bit ironic and tongue in cheek ;;bless her;;; and she did a bloody good job because there are some great pop songs on there, good as the best! 

    So it's hard for Goldfrapp to ever just be a pop group, no matter how hard they try they'll always be a bit more 'arty'. 

    Trouble is, for me, and I'm making a big point of saying, FOR ME, they seem to have dug 'em selves into a bit of a hole because they have this arty element to them, ....and,  that means they expose themselves to the mechanics of art criticism like the rest of the art world. and although it shouldn't be, it's a more demanding world than the world of entertainment - which is what pop is.
    Post edited by la_catalina at 2013-09-26 11:11:27
  • Vote Up0Vote Down KatRobinKatRobin
    Posts: 2,769
    3 simple words to say re the new album: Thank You Goldfrapp xxx
  • Vote Up0Vote Down Jozzy81Jozzy81
    Posts: 3,214
    KatRobin said:

    3 simple words to say re the new album: Thank You Goldfrapp xxx


    could'nt agree more :)
    Just Keep Things Simple.....
    Love Goldfrapp.....
  • Vote Up0Vote Down stevilstevil
    Posts: 899
    KatRobin said:

    3 simple words to say re the new album: Thank You Goldfrapp xxx



    Bravo!!!!!!  =D>
  • Vote Up0Vote Down cw37frappcw37frapp
    Posts: 3,494
    1 word= PERFECT.
    JAMIE CARRAGHER= LEGEND
  • Vote Up0Vote Down tweetytweety
    Posts: 1,451
    la_catalina said:

    whisperit said:

    la_catalina said:

                                                                                                                                                            


    It's difficult with Goldfrapp. .







    is it?
    Post edited by tweety at 2013-10-05 21:15:28
    "its MY favourite song"
  • Vote Up0Vote Down tattmaylortattmaylor
    Posts: 552
    la_catalina said:


    Trouble is, for me, and I'm making a big point of saying, FOR ME, they seem to have dug 'em selves into a bit of a hole because they have this arty element to them, ....and,  that means they expose themselves to the mechanics of art criticism like the rest of the art world. and although it shouldn't be, it's a more demanding world than the world of entertainment - which is what pop is.


    Actually I'm with you on this. Very well calmly explained ;-).

    I think this is also why Head First didn't work like they wanted. The music and records they were homaging were done as pop music but seriously, earnestly and in some ways innocently. That fact they turned out to be cheesy is more in retrospect. So in trying to recreate the essence of those songs in a 'knowing way' would always fail. Why bands like The Darkness can do it once with great tongue in their cheeks but then struggle to make more than one record that anybody wants to hear. That's also why it is so hard to deliberately make a cool pop record. Most are actually accidents (and often never intended to be pop records). The reason people like Annie (scandanvian singer) struggle so much trying to do pop but in an intelligent way. Great pop music is a bit silly.

  • Vote Up0Vote Down Border_MindBorder_Mind
    Posts: 3,465
     One month on from its release and I still adore this album, I am on my 4th listen since yesterday, my cats also seem to love the album, they are both  very chilled out to it, yes my cats are huge fans of Goldfrapp too...
    It's a re-creation
    Again I live another life
    My imagination
    Can't cross the borderline
  • Vote Up0Vote Down bananabanana
    Posts: 182
    OMG first reaction's coming in taken direct stop.



    SHOCKING

    UNFORGETABLE

    LOTS OF BREATH

    HYPONOTIZING

    REACHING FOR DESERPERATION

    STARGAZING FOLK

    DEATH HAS NEVER SOUNDED SO GOOD

    mahogany= my agony
    'the wind...the wind'


  • Vote Up1Vote Down bananabanana
    Posts: 182
    Thea

    "sundown on Isthmus"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westfjords
    mahogany= my agony
    'the wind...the wind'


  • Vote Up0Vote Down iuventusiuventus
    Posts: 5,377
    I believe that I shall never tire of this album.
    If I were dead, could I do this?
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