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  • And then there were the cryptic messages scratched into the run-off section. "Porky Prime Cuts" featured heavily in my collection. Here is a little article about who was responsible.

    Porky 
  • Gaelen said:

    Watch out NovaLasing, this is a strictly no bad-mouthing vinyl thread!  Run before you get the backhand of pure sass! 

    Don't know but probably best avoided. 



    Why can't we discuss things on a website specialised for discussions?  It's a bit beyond me, and has my nose out of joint to be honest.

    No issue with open discussion. No need for your nose to be out of joint either. The comment about 'but best avoided' was in relation to Kat mentioning putting CD's in a microwave and my concern about their reflective nature, not a comment on anything else.

    Now that's cleared up, just saying that Slip started this thread to celebrate his growing vinyl collection, so probably be respectful when you say you think it's a format best consigned to history. Each to his own. I bought my first vinyl album in 1973, (Tubular Bells) so vinyl and I, and for many others, has an endearing quality. Yes it's a pain in the arse, easily scratched, prone to cereal complex ( snaps, crackle and pops) and you have to get up every 25 minutes or so to turn it over, but that only reinforces its appeal, harking back to a time when time was less precious and music less throwaway than it is today. Where you had to buy an artists whole album and not the odd track, where you stored it and collected it and did not put your trust totally in a huge corporation to store your music like ITunes with its endless fucking updates.
    I've spent literally hundreds of hours in Hi-Fi listening rooms comparing vinyl to CD's, different speakers, amps, cables etc, trying to eek tiny improvements with each upgrade.
    Trust me when i tell you that some music just sounds better on vinyl. Not all, but some definatley. I used to think it was because vinyl had more information on it as it was an analogue wave rather than one where it had been sampled and turned into a representation of that original wave by a series of infinitesimally small straight lines, but straight lines all the same.
    I now understand that this is not the case, given the incredible sampling rates now available, but because vinyl bizarrely adds something to the sound, a warmth that just suits some music and makes extended listening sessions less wearing.
    Don't just believe me, read Will's comments above.
    Post edited by Urban_Tribesman at 2017-04-05 16:19:50
    The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ.
    Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit.
    Shall lure it back to cancal half a line,
    Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.
  • This is always a good topic for discussion and we're grown up enough not to take comments too seriously!

    I'm with you UT when it comes to listening to the whole album - well with Goldfrapp anyway (I don't even skip Rocket :) ). And I don't like itunes at all. I understand the attraction of the artwork and ritual in playing LPs, but just love the flexibility of having my collection on a tiny piece of silicon.

    Cutting vinyl involves more compromises than producing digital media though the beauty of the sound is in the ear of the beholder, so whatever sounds best is the best for you. The "warmer" sound on some vinyl records is more about the equalisation (raised mid-bass & reduced high freq) and surface noise, than any improvement in fidelity.

    Of course vinyl is great for the artists as it's difficult to conterfeit and an additional revenue stream.
  • Amen to that last line Pete. Apparantly, vinyl has allowed many artists to start getting some cash in from sales rather than the pittance derived from streaming services. I here that streaming is having a far greater effect in depressing CD sales than vinyl sales.
    I believe another phenomenon of the cutting to vinyl process is the fact that the sound wave is compressed.

    I was listening to an Elton John interview regarding a release he has for Record Store Day (17/11/70 live album) and his love of vinyl. Elton buys most of his vinyl at Rough Trade, 5 or 6 albums a week. He certainly believes that vinyl gives a superior listening experiance.
    The piece end with Rocket Man. One of those songs that gives me shivers. Many, many Goldfrapp shivers, but also SOS by ABBA (yes, ABBA) and in Atomic where Debbie's vocals come back in after the middle eight breakdown. Mmm. White Rabbit by Jefferson Airplane as well.

    Here's a link. Scroll to 1:45:00 to the music news
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08kgrkc
    The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ.
    Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit.
    Shall lure it back to cancal half a line,
    Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.
  • Thanks Nick, that's interesting about Elton. Not sure how can he can possibly get into 5 or 6 new albums a week with all the other things he has to do? At his age he won't be able to hear any difference between digital and vinyl but obviously loves the experience and ritual of playing LPs.


     
  • I know what he means about handling the vinyl, the smell and the ritual of placing it on the platter and dropping the needle.  it's almost a religious ceremony !
    CD's - Push button, tray slides out, flop CD in, tray closes, music comes out. 
    The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ.
    Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit.
    Shall lure it back to cancal half a line,
    Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.
  • I might have mentioned this before, but as a kid I grew up with subtle sexism. My brother was allowed to touch / talk about my dad's " hifi" setup and was allowed to put a record on, whereas I wasn't allowed to so much as take an LP from the cupboard, let alone remove it from its sleeve etc. Cassettes were acceptable, and I had my own little portable player which was upgraded to a CD player in the late 80s, but LPs were a Man Thing in our family. Explain that Freud.
  • I'm sure there is a thread for this but could not find it.  Some Goldfrapp goodies on sale from EIL.com including a Tales of us boxset

    Post edited by Urban_Tribesman at 2017-04-24 09:31:44
    The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ.
    Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit.
    Shall lure it back to cancal half a line,
    Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.
  • That's a decent price for the Train promo vinyl. Still looking for one of the elusive "Wolf Lady" labelled ones. Crossing my fingers for a potential content writing position with an SEO firm to come to fruition this week. They're paying me for side work right now already "in the meantime", so needless to say I'm doing everything I can to not do fucking cartwheels.

    Because then, I'm going shopping.
    Post edited by Slippage at 2017-04-24 19:34:45
  • I am now the proud owner of two 'Frapp vinyls, Head First (which yes, I love) & Tales.  In frames of course, to adorn my wall ;-)

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    Soon be nothing of this world.
  • I'm a vinylphile. In fact, I have a wall full of boxes from the last move I still need to get shelved.

    Certainly, art plays a large part in why I have a lot. The next reason being obscure mixes and versions (they're at least 2/3 12"s). However, I'd be a liar if I said I played much of it when I have MP3s available, though.

    Still, in for a penny...I did get the clear Silver Eye LP (missed the tote - @$#%&!), and would love to see vinyl for these singles, but it doesn't seem there's much hope of that, does there?

    Ironically, I'd love it if Mute did shaped 7" picture discs, and standard pic discs for the 12"s and LP.

    Just need to make room...
  • I do like a box set too. I've been glad to see several (CD) versions of the last few Erasure albums on Lexer Music or Pledge, and a BMG box anthology too, but not one for the new album coming (despite many formats coming from Mute - including cassette).

    I wonder if Mute has now implemented a moratorium on them or if Music Glue had some say, and it was no. It's a shame, as aside from a CD set, I would have liked to have a Silver Eye set including some vinyl...if not picture discs too. :)
  • The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ.
    Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit.
    Shall lure it back to cancal half a line,
    Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.