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  • ^ You'll need to unzip it before you do anything with it.

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  • ^ You'll need to unzip it before you do anything with it.

    If double-clicking it (eg in Windows/File Explorer) doesn't offer to unzip it... you'll need to get hold of an unzipper program. They're free.





    OK I shall try it later. If you hear any screams then you know I can't do it :-??
  • Just read a comment from Will on the interview thread- it made me think.

    Will chuckles. “I’ve got a youngster now and the imagination is like reality for them,” he enthuses.
    “There isn’t a divide; it’d be good if everyone could keep that going. At some point you become aware reality and imagination are two separate things – and that is a sad moment.”

    It is a sad moment. I remember when I thought L'oreal was just a French cosmetics and beauty giant. It's what they advertise, it is what they claim to be. They have taken over the industry..they are major supporters of the Arts. Then you read "L'Oreal Took My Home: The Secrets of a Theft" or "Bitter Scent: The Case of L'Oreal, Nazis, and the Arab Boycott"..or "Ugly Beauty." You realize the World lives in fantasy. There are hidden agendas the public knows nothing about. Advertising..it is all imagination. No one looks further. The World is lost in imagination, that is reality. What is truth? Do we prefer not to look? Do we just believe propaganda? What is it in the Human mind that allows it not to question? Do we believe and trust that others are good inside like ourselves?
    U R I E L
    What is done in the dark will always come to light
  • Perception is reality.  And, I should add, there is such a thing as changing perceptions.  Good job, PG.
    Post edited by Whickwithy at 2014-02-27 21:33:27
  • We suffer too many pathologies for that to be true.
    If I were dead, could I do this?
  • Advertisements are just soooo far from reality. I mean hell, we got a fake-ass CGI lizard selling us car insurance here in the States. You really don't know what the hell you're getting. I'm mean who knew about Loreal? People still haven't a clue. If we really knew what these companies were about, or even what the actual products were made of....we'd flip! Try looking up the ingredients in "Mountain Dew"...you'll shit. It's a fucking cancer cocktail...there's nothing Mountain Dew about it. It's fantasy! Most people trust these brands...why?!
    U R I E L
    What is done in the dark will always come to light
  • The power of advertising and marketing.  It really is enough to make one ill.   Don't get me started, PG.
  • I know, I must stop myself as well....I'm headed into rant territory. One last thing...I find it highly ironic that all the "pink" support for breast cancer..ie. dying hair pink, pink sports drinks,etc..use alot of artificial Red dye, which is a carcinogen.
    Post edited by Ponygurl at 2014-02-28 00:26:47
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  • It's not so much the power of advertising but the ignorance and nonchalance of the consumer...
    Post edited by iuventus at 2014-02-28 00:45:13
    If I were dead, could I do this?
  • People trust the FDA...if it's on the shelf, it's ok. It's almost impossible to tell with genetically modified organisms. I could go on...but people trust these companies and the government. Honestly we should be able to, but that's not the case.
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    What is done in the dark will always come to light
  • People are lazy and stupid. I mean, all you have to do is read the labels of products you buy. How many people have you warned of the contents of their food and cosmetics, only to elicit a shrug of the shoulder or a comment like, "Yeah, I know, but I really like it"?
    Post edited by iuventus at 2014-02-28 01:05:14
    If I were dead, could I do this?
  • One of the most hideous responses I've gotten is, "But my kid won't eat anything else." Sometimes, I want to disembowel people like that.
    If I were dead, could I do this?
  • True...it's apathy. I just want to move to Alaska with the Kilchers and grow my own food.... :P for realsies.
    U R I E L
    What is done in the dark will always come to light
  • That is the beauty of the internet, PG.  If it evolves as it should, people will know a lot more from lovely little comments like your own.  It's really pretty amazing that all the knowledge of the world is at your fingertips.  It wasn't that way 30 years ago!  Yes, it still takes an effort but it's a long way from having it all forced down your throat as it was not so long ago.  The access to information, today, is astounding and it is becoming more difficult to mask reality through advertisements and propoganda.  Of course, there are still plenty of forces that are, also, becoming more blantant with their disinformation campaigns, as well. 

    I kinda view humanity as an entity that, not so long ago, was in the embryonic and infant stage.  Over the past millennium, we have progressed from the childhood stage to the adolescent stage.  And, now, we are getting, at least, near the beginnings of maturity.  Our toys are becoming way too dangerous for little children to play with, so we'd better grow up.  And, efforts like yours, as insignificant as they may seem to you, are good.  Don't run and hide in Alaska, if it's for the sake of hiding.  It's a beautiful place, if you have a reason to go there, go for the beauty of it, though I think the effects of global warming(speaking of the disinformation being thrown around by the deep pockets of oil magnates) may be quite depressing.  Then, again, in Maine, I'm kinda thrilled by the idea of global warming.  Portland could be the mediterranean of the 3rd millennium!

    A funny story.  I was visiting Shenzen, China, and while we were driving towards the customer's office, I happened to notice a billboard.  Nice picture of hard-working people or some such and, at the bottom, there was an assignage: "brought to you the the department of propoganda".  Really!
    Post edited by Whickwithy at 2014-02-28 09:24:41
  • Ponygurl said:

    Try looking up the ingredients in "Mountain Dew"...you'll shit. It's a fucking cancer cocktail...there's nothing Mountain Dew about it. It's fantasy! Most people trust these brands...why?!



    I have no idea what Mountain Dew is... unless it's dew found on a mountain.

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